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April 17, 2020 at 10:50 am #11015
Madam
KeymasterDo you think an “illegal driver” would really help many improve their current game?
Is it a bad thing for a social golfer that doesn’t play in comps? Do more people get hit? The beginner would be more excited about playing to then improve and play competition golf with proper clubs?
OR it won’t help a person with bad technique and make their game worse?
From this online article- https://www.golf.com/gear/drivers/2020/04/16/how-much-farther-would-you-hit-an-illegal-driver/
For a moment, let’s ignore the realities of driver limitations and think about a world of unrestricted driver technology. How much farther would the average golfer hit the ball with a maxed-out driver in 2020?
First, let’s establish a baseline of what the rules actually are at the moment.
In 1998, the USGA implemented COR (coefficient of restitution) limitations on golf clubs. According to the rules, COR could not exceed 0.822 with a tolerance of 0.08, meaning any driver measuring over 0.830 was deemed illegal. The test for COR is accurate but time-consuming, and the USGA later switched to a CT test in 2004. The CT tests are essentially — without getting too far into the woods on this — an approximation of COR tests, but using a quicker system. All that is to say that while the USGA limits are in terms of CT now, the COR limitations basically have not changed.
Tom Olsavsky, a longtime golf club engineer in the industry and current VP of R&D at Cobra, recently helped us imagine a world without the COR limit.
“Well, every tenth of a point of the COR number — think from .822 to .832 — for a Tour player that’s probably worth about 2-3 yards, maybe 4 yards nowadays with their swing speeds,” Olsavsky explained on our Fully Equipped podcast. “So, if we think about the average consumer taking an .860 driver versus an .822, it should be 8-12 yards longer. That’s where we could certainly be. If you add another 8-12 yards on top of that, if we get to 0.880 or 0.890, there could be 20-something yards of distance from an unlimited COR driver.”
So, let’s assume that the driver you are using right now measures 0.822 on the COR scale. Let’s also assume you hit the ball, say, 240 yards on average. In a world where COR limitations did not exist, and driver manufacturers maxed out current technology, you would hit the ball 260-plus yards on average, instead of 240 yards.
Of course, using drivers that are fully maxed out with no limitations would turn the equipment industry upside down and change the way golfers play the game. Some would relish the opportunity to hit their longest drives ever, while traditionalists would be furious. Social media would certainly explode, but, it’s fun to think about.
April 17, 2020 at 12:09 pm #11016Barenski
ModeratorHappy to let anyone try my 600cc Driver
STILL FUCKING CAPTAIN
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April 17, 2020 at 1:10 pm #11018Francie
KeymasterHappy to let anyone try my 600cc Driver
No thanks….useless to me. 😉
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Masters Champion 11/4/2022April 19, 2020 at 8:13 am #11040Can break 80
ParticipantPerhaps they should grade the size of heads according to skill level.
Start off with larger oversize heads when beginning or until game reaches a determined level,, then at each grade / skill level the head becomes small.
ie 500 CC for high handicap
400 for mid
300 cc for good players
250 cc for pro’s
ie
make the driver heads for pro’s and elite players smaller,like the old persimmon heads.
This would mean hitting right in middle or ball would not fly.1 user liked this post.
April 19, 2020 at 9:02 am #11042Madam
KeymasterPerhaps they should grade the size of heads according to skill level.
Start off with larger oversize heads when beginning or until game reaches a determined level,, then at each grade / skill level the head becomes small.
ie 500 CC for high handicap
400 for mid
300 cc for good players
250 cc for pro’s
ie
make the driver heads for pro’s and elite players smaller,like the old persimmon heads.
This would mean hitting right in middle or ball would not fly.If they grade by size of head Pigskin will definitely win Round 1.
Who would win the smallest size?
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April 19, 2020 at 1:15 pm #11045Commish
ParticipantPerhaps they should grade the size of heads according to skill level.
Start off with larger oversize heads when beginning or until game reaches a determined level,, then at each grade / skill level the head becomes small.
ie 500 CC for high handicap
400 for mid
300 cc for good players
250 cc for pro’s
ie
make the driver heads for pro’s and elite players smaller,like the old persimmon heads.
This would mean hitting right in middle or ball would not fly.Who would win the smallest size?
So many questions rolling around in my empty cavity at the moment (well only one really for the second part) and I’m sure others are thinking the same or similar. I’ll let them ask though.
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